Clint
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Post by Clint on Jun 21, 2006 12:09:15 GMT -7
Wario Ware rules Billy.
We're back from California, ready to jam and play risk.
I'm a music pirate. so kill me.
A lot of bands don't mind you downloading music online. They want there music to be heard, like everyone who writes a song. For example, thursday encourages it.
A good album thats coming out pretty soon is Austen Heller - Old Haunts.
hahaha
EGO.
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Post by jabberjaw on Jun 21, 2006 12:36:49 GMT -7
We Are Scientist are good. Chris is from Ogden.
The Raconteurs album is good too. Can't go wrong with Jack White and Brendan Benson.
BRMC -- Howl is an amazing album. The Howl Sessions is even better.
I recommend,
The Morning After Girls -- s/t
The Walkmen -- A Hundred Miles Off
Art Brut -- Bang Bang Rock N Roll.
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William
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Post by William on Jun 21, 2006 13:46:58 GMT -7
Wario Ware rules Billy. We're back from California, ready to jam and play risk. I'm a music pirate. so kill me. A lot of bands don't mind you downloading music online. They want there music to be heard, like everyone who writes a song. For example, thursday encourages it. A good album thats coming out pretty soon is Austen Heller - Old Haunts. hahaha EGO. yeah we really need too. TFT need to start making songs! |
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Post by Thugged Out Gangsta Pimp on Jun 21, 2006 23:33:08 GMT -7
I'm a music pirate. so kill me. A lot of bands don't mind you downloading music online. They want there music to be heard, like everyone who writes a song. For example, thursday encourages it. EGO. and because of people like you, businesses like graywhale go OUT of business and you put me out of a job. thanks you ass holes |
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Post by Ghost Of Lemonlight on Jun 23, 2006 10:55:06 GMT -7
It's true clint.
It just goes to show how true of a music supporter you are....
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Post by Clint on Jun 23, 2006 11:15:42 GMT -7
honestly, if I wasn't a broke teenager, I wouldn't.
I find it incrediably hard to believe that none of you have burnt cd's in your cd cases. I also find it hard to believe that none of those burnt cd's are from friends who downloaded them.
Also, I had nothing to do with Graywhale being moved. Like I said, I have absolutely zero money, and when I do have some I have to spend it on drum heads or sticks. When I get a job after the summer I'm sure I'll start buying cd's. Don't jump my ass for being poor and liking music. Or would you rather me get burnt cd's from other people (just as illegal)?
Atleast in Canada, the artists support the fans.
Canadian Music Creators Coalition wrote:
1. Suing Our Fans is Destructive and Hypocritical
Artists do not want to sue music fans. The labels have been suing our fans against our will, and laws enabling these suits cannot be justified in our names. We oppose any copyright reforms that would make it easier for record companies to do this. The government should repeal provisions of the Copyright Act that allow labels to unfairly punish fans who share music for non-commercial purposes with statutory damages of $500 to $20,000 per song.
2. Digital Locks are Risky and Counterproductive
Artists do not support using digital locks to increase the labels’ control over the distribution, use and enjoyment of music or laws that prohibit circumvention of such technological measures. The government should not blindly implement decade-old treaties designed to give control to major labels and take choices away from artists and consumers. Laws should protect artists and consumers, not restrictive technologies. Consumers should be able to transfer the music they buy to other formats under a right of fair use, without having to pay twice.
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William
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Post by William on Jun 23, 2006 12:16:34 GMT -7
i would like to recommend a PRE-ORDER: Due out in October: These Arms Are Snakes - Easter "THESE ARMS ARE SNAKES second full length for Jade Tree finds the Seattle foursome towing a proverbial line between paradox, hostility and a caustic blend of post-hard/math core. Retaining the definitive tension and angular force of earlier THESE ARMS ARE SNAKES efforts, Easter is the year-long culmination of a more structured yet experimental song writing process for the band. Recorded at Red Room Recording in Seattle by TAAS drummer Chris Common, Easter explores the relationship between suspect animism, impending otherwordly doom and the ethereal battle between virtue and ruin. More than anything from THESE ARMS ARE SNAKES’ back catalog, Easter was meant to hurt you." You can hear new MP3's at www.myspace.com/thesearmsaresnakes |
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Post by Defender Dan on Jun 23, 2006 14:02:30 GMT -7
honestly, if I wasn't a broke teenager, I wouldn't. I find it incrediably hard to believe that none of you have burnt cd's in your cd cases. I also find it hard to believe that none of those burnt cd's are from friends who downloaded them. Also, I had nothing to do with Graywhale being moved. Like I said, I have absolutely zero money, and when I do have some I have to spend it on drum heads or sticks. When I get a job after the summer I'm sure I'll start buying cd's. Don't jump my ass for being poor and liking music. Or would you rather me get burnt cd's from other people (just as illegal)? Atleast in Canada, the artists support the fans. Canadian Music Creators Coalition wrote: 1. Suing Our Fans is Destructive and Hypocritical Artists do not want to sue music fans. The labels have been suing our fans against our will, and laws enabling these suits cannot be justified in our names. We oppose any copyright reforms that would make it easier for record companies to do this. The government should repeal provisions of the Copyright Act that allow labels to unfairly punish fans who share music for non-commercial purposes with statutory damages of $500 to $20,000 per song. 2. Digital Locks are Risky and Counterproductive Artists do not support using digital locks to increase the labels’ control over the distribution, use and enjoyment of music or laws that prohibit circumvention of such technological measures. The government should not blindly implement decade-old treaties designed to give control to major labels and take choices away from artists and consumers. Laws should protect artists and consumers, not restrictive technologies. Consumers should be able to transfer the music they buy to other formats under a right of fair use, without having to pay twice. that makes perfect sence to me...and he does have several good points...i agree 100 percent with you. cant we just like stop pointing fingers and stop talking shit there were many reasons why graywhale went out of bissness you cant just pin it on people burning cds...come on everyone does it, everyone has done it, and everyone will do it, and the big buisnesses still are in bisness. |
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Post by William on Jun 23, 2006 14:36:16 GMT -7
regardless of what that says, i still don't agree with downloading music.
just view it as any other art form you created. i'm sure you wouldn't want to get ripped off by some poor/rich suburban kid that had no input in your creation. sure they're fans, but are they REAL fans. i'm sure we all have a definition of what a real fan is but mine is one who doesn't download. if he does upload it onto his computer and in fact likes it buys it later on.
Dan, i suggest you don't encourage the behavior of these downloading individuals. Too me it just seems that they are high class individuals not willing to work for what they want.
i think we all have been in the boat of being poor and liking music. but, those who truly love music, learned to sacrifice for it. like i did many times growing up
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Post by Clint on Jun 23, 2006 15:28:28 GMT -7
Sacrifice what billy? I can't get a job until september, it's the law.
You definition of a real fan is your choice. But I don't have to agree.
I realize that regardless of my definition of a "fan," downloading music is still illegal. Like I said, as soon as I have a job, I will start buying cd's. I like to have the cases, and the booklets.
Also, I buy real cd's from touring bands. Thats supporting the bands, not big business.
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Post by kelin on Jun 23, 2006 18:05:48 GMT -7
one question billy, by downloading, do you mean for free? or off of itunes?
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Post by Defender Dan on Jun 23, 2006 18:11:33 GMT -7
who said i was supporting the downloading of music
i never said that
i just said that clint had some good points
come on
fights on loganscene are pointless what do you get out of them
does it make you feel all special inside
come on everyone has their opinion and their right to voice that opinion
come on people i dont like getting into fights, but it always seems that im pushed into them for voiceing my opinion
if we could all realize that everyone has an opinion, an all be more openminded
we could all stop this pointless fighting
mabe i should keep my pointless opinions to myself and be like the rest of the world who wont stand up and say what they feel
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Post by Adrian on Jun 23, 2006 19:31:32 GMT -7
Well fuck, this shit is cool: ArmsBendBack - The Waiting Room. Hell fuckin' yeah.
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Post by kelin on Jun 23, 2006 20:12:59 GMT -7
well dan, if you go read your post, you willl see, you infact DID say, that you do it, and you will keep doing it.
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William
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Post by William on Jun 23, 2006 23:44:16 GMT -7
iTunes is fine with me. just downloading illegally.
Clint, i didn't have a job at one time either and i somehow found ways to get money which lead to buying CDs (have you ever heard of mowing lawns, selling lemonade..ha, or doing some work for a good friend of yours?). you can rip on big business all you want. but, thats what some of your favorite "Indie" bands labels are turning out to be now. the line between independent and mainstream has mixed in some areas. and if you disagree with me thats fine. but, i calls 'em how i sees 'em.
i'm glad to hear you pay for touring bands cds and i admit thats a good gesture.
i just don't see why, as a musician, you'd view this as the proper thing to do. if you have a problem with that i understand completely. because we really don't agree on much.
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