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Post by jonzey on Mar 11, 2009 15:01:37 GMT -7
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Post by Ghost Of Lemonlight on Mar 11, 2009 15:34:24 GMT -7
I personally don't see the big deal. They made sure the depictions were accurate. It's a real ceremony and they can't expect to hide it from the general public. I don't think in any way they are trying to bring down the Mormon church.
I for one love the show and i think people need to remember that it's just a television show.
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Post by secondhand on Mar 11, 2009 15:53:22 GMT -7
I am a 'believer' and though it feels weird, people can get on the internet and find the whole ceremony. (I just confirmed that) and if people really want to know they will find out. Our country enjoys the freedom of speech and though it goes against what I believe, if they want to air it, they can. That is what our country was founded on, EVEN THOUGH it goes against my religion, just like premarital sex, drugs, and many other things that happen today, I choose not to be a part of it, and in that way voice my opinion.
So... I'm sad to see it happen on TV, but what can you do? Get angry?
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Post by jonzey on Mar 11, 2009 18:54:17 GMT -7
I agree with you 100%, secondhand. I think it's great that our country enjoys freedom of speech, I just don't always agree with how people choose to exercise that freedom- this being a perfect example. And it's not just because I'm a follower of this particular sect whose sacred ceremonies are being broadcast for the world to see. I would hope that television executives would have the common decency not to portray anything that ANY religion considers holy enough to keep "secret". But that just doesn't make for good tv...
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Post by mellowmarie on Mar 11, 2009 21:35:53 GMT -7
I understand why you think it is disrespectful but at least they are not bashing the lds church like so many other movies and shows have.
I love this show. i own the seasons.
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Post by ~~sLuGsTaRr~~ on Mar 12, 2009 15:10:59 GMT -7
Well, the agreement between the two has kinda been compromised. I also agree with the comments made on this thread. I, being a 'believer' feel that the respect has been, in ways, lost between these two organizations, but I don't think it is meant to be a cheap shot. Like Secondhand stated, you can look it up on the internet, heck, it's published word for word in the Library of Congress. September Dawn, in a sense, recreated this ceremony as well. If you don't feel good about it, ignore it. If you love the show, go on with your life watching it. I in know way feel the need to judge.
I just think it's funny, because there is no Polygamy in Mormonism today, and there hasn't been for years. So I guess that for one is an inaccuracy. I don't watch the show though, so I can't really speak for what it portrays.
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Post by regina on Mar 12, 2009 16:02:49 GMT -7
Correction: there is no polygamy in mainstream Mormonism today. There are still a handful of sects that follow the "traditional" views on marriage. I am "post" mo (an ex mo, with my name still on the list), but I like the mo's (many of my family and friends are mo's, and we get along fine), and as far as the show goes, I've only seen a handful of episodes from the first season, but I thought they were dumb. Having lived here my whole life, I identify a lot with the mo's and I think that our state is better off for them (at least this isn't some Californian socialist shit hole). I think that too narrow of a view is presented of them in general, but specifically on this show, and a whole bunch of people get lumped into the inaccuracy, which actually pisses me off a little bit. Maybe the portrayal of the ceremony on the tv will be accurate (I, for one, will never know), but I don't grant the show a lot of credibility anyway, so I don't think anything is gained or lost by showing it. I don't look at it as a sign of disrespect from HBO, though, I look at it as the LDS graduation date into mainstream society. As represented by polygamists.  Does anyone even personally know any real polygamists? I grew up in Fielding, and there was a family of polygamists that had their kids in my grade school. They were on the fringes of society and probably lived the rest of their life on the ranch out by Portage, which was a shit hole of a town (I had two other friends from there, so I know first hand). Those were the only multiple-woman marriers that I have ever met (or even known about!), and I don't think that they were a very good representation of the LDS religion. |
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Post by secondhand on Mar 12, 2009 16:14:37 GMT -7
the knights?
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Post by mellowmarie on Mar 12, 2009 16:41:58 GMT -7
I just think it's funny, because there is no Polygamy in Mormonism today, and there hasn't been for years. So I guess that for one is an inaccuracy. I don't watch the show though, so I can't really speak for what it portrays. like Ragina said there is no polygamy is main stream mormonism. there is however a lot of polygamist that call them selfs traditional mormons. in middle school i had to do a report on polygamy for my Utah project. that is when i first saw all the flaws and cover ups in the church. I am in no way saying the lds church is bad. just that they try to cover up the past as dose any church with a past really. when i went to hillcrest high in slc i went two school with 5 kinds that i knew of (maybe more) that were polygamist. they were a little weird but other wise did not stick out. and they would hide that they were polygamist. but one of the guys in the fam had a strange fixation (aka stalker like) with me and told me they were polygamist. My friend also took his sister on a date and she told him, but he never went out with her again after her asking about marriage on the first date. This show is a neutral show. it shows the bad and the good to polygamy. and it shows that it is separate from main stream mormonism. so it dose not portray all mormons as polygamist. i do understand why anyone would be upset over this. but you don't see catholics or muslims or jew or even buddhist making a big deal when they are portrayed in a bad way or way they would not like to be seen. really this is nothing new to how hollywood portrays religion. I know it hits home guys but like i said a lot of other movies and shows have portrayed the mormon church a lot worse. |
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Post by ~~sLuGsTaRr~~ on Mar 12, 2009 16:49:14 GMT -7
I think you may be misunderstanding all of our posts. Pretty sure nobody is as upset as you are making them out to be.
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Post by mellowmarie on Mar 12, 2009 16:59:09 GMT -7
I think you may be misunderstanding all of our posts. Pretty sure nobody is as upset as you are making them out to be. I am not making anyone out to be that upset. your the one misunderstanding or nit picking my posts, never mind the thought or value I put into it. then again i could not expect you to post anything relevant to anything i really say. slugger just shut up.  |
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Post by regina on Mar 12, 2009 17:03:27 GMT -7
yep, the knights.
Also, KRCL is interviewing a mormon polygamist tonight if any of y'all are interested. It's on right now, and I think you can listen to it online.
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Post by Ghost Of Lemonlight on Mar 12, 2009 18:20:34 GMT -7
People seem to forget it's a television show and not a representation about what Mormonism is in Utah, it's obviously gonna have references to LDS practices and beliefs because well...at it's root has the LDS religion a focal point in the show. They're polygamists trying to live in a modern Mormon society and let's face it, there are still polygamists in Utah AND elsewhere, some trying to fit into normal society as well. I think most of you should watch the show before you should even CONSIDER having an opinion because most of you have no idea really what the show is about and I think it has an incredibly interesting storyline. Growing up LDS I also find it more interesting because I can understand and relate to certain situations even more.
It's not like the producers of the show (one of them being Tom Hanks) set out to tarnish the LDS religion or even portray what the LDS religion is. They even have a disclaimer at the end of the show that the LDS church no longer practices polygamy. I think the ones that are getting offended are ones that believe in Mormonism and have never seen the show. Exorcism isn't practiced anymore in the Catholic Church but when movies come out about that you people don't seem to care as much, just saying...
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Post by Jonas on Mar 12, 2009 19:08:20 GMT -7
Polygamy is a valid extension of Mormonism. Discounting them because they aren't a part of the most common form of Mormonism is simply small minded.
I think LDS church is handling this temple issue brilliantly.
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Post by fthomasjackson on Mar 12, 2009 19:19:41 GMT -7
The Catholic church still performs excorisms.
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